Devon Branch Ploughing day.

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Devon Branch Ploughing day.

Post by Guest » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:31 pm

Took nearly 2 hours for this video I took of the ploughing day to upload but it uploaded ok. Filmed in 16.9 aspect but YouTube has converted it so the tractors look a bit narrow. Here's the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dEo5U80XkE

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RE: Devon Branch Ploughing day.

Post by expat » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:58 pm

Viewing now :) Thanks for sharing.

BTW if you render the video at the aspect ratio you want (as an AVI or similar) youtube shouldn't "squish" it - at least it didn't when SWMBO used to post videos!

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RE: Devon Branch Ploughing day.

Post by mart1602 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:00 am

thanks for putting this on pics and vids are all good,as i said before never done any ploughing and dont know much about it but i do know that theres no need for a depth wheel with the selectomatic system so why are some using one?was also wondering where the stoney land was you nwere talking about tim?looks like nice stuff to me :wink:

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Re: RE: Devon Branch Ploughing day.

Post by Scooby » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:53 am

mart1602 wrote:but i do know that theres no need for a depth wheel with the selectomatic system
All match ploughmen use a depth wheel. It gives a greater control of the depth than any hydraulic depth system will ever do. The plough will follow the ground perfectly with a wheel. It won't using the hydraulics.

Now I am going to get critical. Someone took time and trouble to set that "ploughing" event up, and Tim took time to take video and put it on YouTube. So full marks to all. But why oh why, when some people are obviously trying their first bit of ploughing, are they not told about using skims ?

There are shiny tractor, shiny ploughs, even brand new discs, but where are the skims ? Burying the rubbish is half the job of ploughing so why is it neglected ? I would much rather see unmatched furrows and all the rubbish buried than the other way round.
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RE: Devon Branch Ploughing day.

Post by Guest » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:09 am

The plough on the 25D was using the landwheel as this tractor, as on the 3 cylinder 880 Implematic, has no depth control other than the operator with his hand constantly on the hydraulic lever to keep a constant depth, that doesn't stop the plough raising when it hits a harder patch but the depth wheel prevents the plough from going any deeper or shallower unless you wind up or down the wheel. You will notice that the landwheel on the plough on the Selectamatic 880 was wound up off the ground as it was not needed, as you rightly say, as the Selectamatic has depth control and depth is controled through the top link unit sensing cable when the dial pointer is in the 'depth' position, in short, the Implematic system and before, depth is maintained by the tractor driver constantly ajusting the htdraulic lever whereas with the Selectamatic system, you put the dial pointer to 'depth', find the optimum depth or the depth you wish to plough on the hydraulic lever, move the guide on the quadrant to line up with the lever when the desired position is achieved and then no matter how many times you lift or drop the plough, when you lower or raise the lever to the guide position the depth of the plough will be the same every time.

The field is right on the edge of Dartmoor itself just a few hundred yards from the edge of the actual Moor itself, if you look on the map and find Exeter, follow the B3212 road for 17 miles and the field is on the right, I expect you could find it on Google maps, find a place called 'Lettaford', carry on a little and switch to 'sattalite' and zoom in and you will see the field right beside the main road, 3 cornered field with a lot of round feeder marks and an oblong with white bale wrap waste in it, the oblong is a post and rail 'corral'. If you then switch to 'street veiw' by dragging the little yellow man down onto the road in the bottom right corner of the map pane you can then walk up the road and when you come to a holly tree on the hedge turn to pan right and you can look right in the gateway, you'll see a recently erected fence throgh a cnew metal gate. That will give you an idea of the terrain.

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RE: Devon Branch Ploughing day.

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RE: Devon Branch Ploughing day.

Post by Guest » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:59 am

That's the field.

Cambs, with respect you obviously don't understand the difference between ploughing your type of land and the type of land here. Firstly standing skims would still choke up exactly the same as normal skims, it just depends on the turf and how you have the skims ajusted or positioned in relation to the discs, you don't plough with the skims, they are used to take the tpo edge edge off the turf as the furrow rises over the mouldboard and throw it into the bottom of the furrow and in certain conditions they don't always work. As for using a power harrow on our type of land the size of the stones and rocks would smash it to bits within minutes so they are of no use at all. After ploughing a field, it is rolled and then the seedbed is achieved by using sectional drag harrows to achieve an adequate tilth and then using a lighter set of drag harrows to acieve the seedbed, both operations that could require dragging over the field 18 or 20 times before it's ready to till, you chaps over there live in a different world. Semi digger ploughs are never used simply because they are not suitable considering that the maximum depth we can plough here is to 6 inches but normally 4 inches is quite adequate otherwise you're bringing up sub-soi and more rocks.

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RE: Devon Branch Ploughing day.

Post by Guest » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:55 am

Here you can plough at most times of the year, obviously not in the depths of winter but anytime between providing the ground is not sodden, our soil is very free draining, we can have a days hard rain and you can plough within 12 hours. Alternitiveley you can plough a field in late autumn, up til Christmas if the weather's right and leave to break down over winter and then get on and work it down in late February to mid March and get it tilled just that bit earlier, especially for spring barley and oats, you can till cerials here up to the first week in May but if you get a poor early summer the season then is not long enough for it as you would expect then to be harvesting it around the last week in September which is pushing it. For re-seeding back to grass that's best done in March or April, autumn seeding bit too late as the grass seeds will not be mature and hard enough to survive the winter, normally we undersow barley or oats with grass seed, this saves on cultivation and by the time you combine the corn you've already got an established ley underneath, fat lambs on the young grass between September and February and come the end of May through up to the end of june you've got a crop of silage or hay off of it. Our soil here is a granite based dark sandy loam through to a light clay loam and in the lower valleys or 'combes' within the Moor is more of a peat loam which does not set like concrete, it just forms an easily broken top crust if ploughed and left for any length of time

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RE: Devon Branch Ploughing day.

Post by simonwill69 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:29 pm

Thank PR great vid, but skims,discs,depth wheels.....you might as well be talking Martian.
So PLEASE can someone recomend a book or a link to 'ploughing for numpties',so even if i never get to have a go ,at least i will know what you'r on about.
Thanks, Simon

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RE: Devon Branch Ploughing day.

Post by Guest » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:50 pm

Keeping it on a David Brown theme, a good little book to look out for is 'The David Brown Plough Book'. This book has a green cover with red writing on it and a blue circle in the top right corner with the words 'Cropmaster Series' across it, also in blue. It contains 28 pages with instructions for operation and maintenance for the plough and also contains a comprehensive instructions in how to plough. This booklet was originally published in January 1949 so may be hard to find. It relates to the PU type ploughs of that period but is still relevant to all D.B. plough models as the principle is still exactly the same today as it was then.

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RE: Devon Branch Ploughing day.

Post by simonwill69 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:21 pm

Thanks

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