Alternative Replacement Service Parts.

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Loz
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Re: Alternative Replacement Service Parts.

Post by Loz » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:46 pm

campbelltonberry wrote:Constant Velocity rubber replacement boots will fit for gearshift boots. The ones I used were new for an Austin Mini....may not be available now! Also have replaced Dynamos with new Delco alternators. The brackets needed remaking and the original voltage regulator scrapped, of course. The tractor seats have been replaced with assemblies from "Princess Auto" -common store in Canada. Does anyone know of a tidy way to replace that stack of hydraulic valves? I have 3 remotes on my tractors- two 880s and a DB1212 and DB1200. Ergonomics is not David Browns strong point...design philosophy seemed to be let the operator adapt his body to the machine. Pretty common attitude at the time and Db was probably more advanced than most with 3pt hitch and TCU.

Agree with you here on ergonomics, but also agree it was advanced for its design date, better still on the gearshift gaiter / CV joint boots, i applied "universal" boots, bought cheaply from NZ motor factors, which are stepped in design, to be cut down if required, worked well on my 1212 :-)

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Post by Paul Jones » Thu May 04, 2017 11:58 pm

Guest wrote:
Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:05 pm
Well Bernie, seems like they have taken notice of people complaining about them and have now got these lamps right. As for the legal requirement, A O K. That may inspire me to submit an FAQ topic, 'tractor lighting reqirements under the Law', not so much as what tractors should have in the way of lighting but more of requirements on age of tractor which are a lot different than on cars.


That's right. It has been taken cared of.

Paul Jones
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cossyrec
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Re: Alternative Replacement Service Parts.

Post by cossyrec » Wed May 17, 2017 10:36 pm

Just started doing a bit to my 885 looked on net for some rear axle oil seals. On net these where priced from £6 to £10 each ish. Called at local bearing stockist George Lodge Hull four for £12.00. Also priced on net hydraulic filter at Mayhill £13 with gasket. Called at local Farmstar got one no gasket never asked price. Ended up paying £34+vat. Win some lose some

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Re: Alternative Replacement Service Parts.

Post by Lofty » Wed May 31, 2017 7:34 am

I've found a replacement side mount fuel sender for my 885. I don't know if any other models used this type. The Smiths number on my old unit is TBS1514/006. The one I've used is TBS1514/003 and is listed for Triumph Herald cars. I haven't yet found anyone who can tell me the significance of the numbers, but the only difference I can see is the float arm is a bit shorter and a slightly different shape. I've bent and extended it by soldering the old arm on. The gauge reads a little under full with the float right up, but the low end of the scale seems pretty accurate. I bought it on ebay UK from lotsofclassicbits.

PS: I will amend that by saying it reads uniformly low by about 1/8. What I meant by accurate was when it says E its a good time to refuel so I'm satisfied.

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Re: Alternative Replacement Service Parts.

Post by bushwhackerbill » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:47 pm

Post by DB770.DB880 » %b %10, %2011 - %0
"Did you buy your DB from Shaw farm supply? you can buy the screw in type bulb from Canadian Tire, the ones used in the Selectamatic will not fit the Implematic,
Sparex Canada (CEFS) carry the temperature gauge it's part #S.57858 and it comes c/w sender list price app $50.00 + Tax & Shipping.
Hope this helps you"


I ordered a temperature gauge and sending unit from Elmer Landman. Did that a year or so ago, just tried to install it today. The old gauge had a electrical wire connection from the sending unit. The one he supplied, (Sparex part #S4341) has a coiled wire sheath on the connecting cable and I expect is the capillary type you speak of. The sending unit has a larger thread than the original and will not fit. The old unit has a measurement across the centre of the tapered thread of about .625" while the new one is around .850. The part number of the original DB gauge and sender was shown on page 53 of the parts catalogue I have as U438 (908031). Is there a Sparex part to replace this? I am pretty sure the problem is in the gauge, as the needle flops freely back and forth when I roll it in my hand.
Bill

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Re: Alternative Replacement Service Parts.

Post by 880Aubrey » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:07 pm

I have the rear/side mount fuel sending units for the 880A and some other Selectamatics . Replaces factory part#K916635
(Gaskets also available) Can also make them to work with aftermarket gauges.
PM me for more info.

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Re: Alternative Replacement Service Parts.

Post by GeoffDEAL » Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:18 pm

Hi anyone have information on replacement turbochargers that fit to replace the Holset ones on 1690t , holset appears to go to Cummins turbos but cant get a x reference but look to be similar fitting, i think the Holset can be rebuilt but not much information on that, they are pretty reliable but someone must have experienced replacement.

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Re: Alternative Replacement Service Parts.

Post by GeoffDEAL » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:10 pm

Have checked the Holset catalog list and two turbos are listed for Case and Case / David Brown under H1A that relates to 1690t a service kit is listed for both 3545650 interesting that Holset and David Brown were both at Huddersfield and Holset/Cummins still are, probably relates to DB using their turbos when they fitted turbos, anyone have more information on the turbos replacement ones ect .

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Re: Alternative Replacement Service Parts.

Post by jazo » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:52 am

Still a lot of db tractors were supplied with shwitzer turbos aswell.
1394 4wd
1294 4wd
30D
990x2
880
780x2
900

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GeoffDEAL
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Re: Alternative Replacement Service Parts.

Post by GeoffDEAL » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:19 am

Hi jazo yes Shwitzer were fitted on the 4 cylinder tractors but the 6 cyl had Holset, had a Shwitzer on my 1494 till it failed it emptyed the oil in one round of a paddock, nothing on the dipstick, i tock it off and have run the 1494 without ever since. I think Shwitzer are now also associated with Cummins and therefore Holset as well.

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GeoffDEAL
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Re: Alternative Replacement Service Parts.

Post by GeoffDEAL » Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:03 pm

Hi i note in the latest Tractor News that the clubs John Torley works for Cummins Turbos Holset and could perhaps inform us on replacement turbos for the DB tractors. cheers Geoff

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Re: Alternative Replacement Service Parts.

Post by JJT » Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:01 pm

Hello Geoff.
There were two suppliers of turbos to David Brown Tractors - Holset (Huddersfield) and Schwitzer (Bradford). I work at Holset, so can only really speak about those. The Holset turbos specified for our DBs were variants of the H1A and 3L ranges of turbos which are now unfortunately obsolete without supersession. New old stock parts will be rare, if at all. But specialist turbo distributors may be able to rebuild turbos if you have them. I can recommend BTN in Uxbridge and SCM in Huddersfield. I had direct dealings with them through one of my previous roles at work. Other distributors may be able to help, but I can't recommend any as I never worked with others.
If distributors can't sort a Holset turbo or if you have a Schwitzer turbo, I believe that Schwitzer variants (company is now Borg Warner) are still available. If you are swapping between Holset and Schwitzer, I believe you need a different oil drain tube.
I hope that helps!

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Re: Alternative Replacement Service Parts.

Post by cobbadog » Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:42 am

Do turbos run at the same boost pressure?

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Re: Alternative Replacement Service Parts.

Post by GeoffDEAL » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:29 pm

Hi JJT what current Holset Cummins turbos would bolt up to the DB manofolds say 1690t and do a similar job, your ideas thanks.Geoff

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Re: Alternative Replacement Service Parts.

Post by JJT » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:21 pm

Regarding the boost pressure, I don't believe there were engine rating differences that would demand different turbos (eg one supplier was the high rating; the other the lower). Hence I'd assume the DB engine performance engineers would have specified similar performance levels - so I'd suggest Holset and Schwitzer would nominally to similar boost levels. However, as both designs are different, I would expect there would be minor differences between the two types of turbos. In addition, as all the components in the turbos have production variations, there would be minor turbo-to-turbo performance differences. So, in summary, although the boost should be nominally similar, if you select one Holset and one Schwitzer and test them back to back, it would be likely there's be minor differences - more so as the turbos wear with use.

With regard to other Holset turbos fitting, I'm not sure, I'm afraid. I've never worked on the smallest turbos we design and make. Last time I had a look, I couldn't find anything obvious, but it's about time I looked again. I'll let you know!

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