Battery Tray/Box

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Post by broadsword » Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:28 am

This is the `best` vertical picture I can come up with from Stuarts book but it is on a VAK1 - I think they had the same battery carrier as the VAK1A and C but perhaps Cliff may know better than me???

They are more of a squareish type with rounded ends - not obviously oblong.

I will say one thing here though - on one thread (oil filler cap) we have a poster questioning the fit and standard of an item of a well known DB supplier who takes the DB job very seriously (in fact DB only no other parts, unlike the multi franchise classis parts supplier) and yet on here is quite happy to recommend an item @ £66 which at least judging by the pictures will not fit at all unless you take a hacksaw to it or completely alter the battery box which then throws the OP`s desire for keeping it original out of the window.!!!.

Perhaps if we were to treat this as a discussion forum rather than a throwaway `matter of fact`(a fair percentage matter of wrong some of the time) forum and stopped trying to out clever each other all the time we would all get along a lot better.

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db2d
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Post by db2d » Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:42 am

The battery and cover is the same on the VAK1 as the Cropmaster but the carrier is mounted differently to allow for the shorter wheelbase.

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Post by Scooby » Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:12 am

broadsword wrote: Perhaps if we were to treat this as a discussion forum rather than a throwaway `matter of fact`(a fair percentage matter of wrong some of the time) forum and stopped trying to out clever each other all the time we would all get along a lot better.
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I like that paragraph Andrew but rest assured that I am watching this topic as well as others and presumably like you I am getting very annoyed about the petty point scoring that emanates mainly from one particular poster.

A response such as "I don't need any anyway as I have a good stock of the original caps so let's leave it there." on the oil filler cap topic was very aggravating and completely unnecessary.
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Post by Guest » Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:26 am

I think that sarcastic oily rag comments need addressing as well!

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Post by Scooby » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:01 pm

Powerrabbit wrote:I think that sarcastic oily rag comments need addressing as well!

You just cannot shut up can you ? I actually found the oily rag post quite amusing. I will email you with instructions as to how to access this site again in 7 days time. Please learn a lesson from this experience.

If anyone is in any doubt about the meaning of the above the result is that Powerrabbit has been excluded from this web site for 7 days. This site is a mine of information from some very knowledgeable people, including the offender at times, but the constant one upmanship and the inability to discuss rather than argue about issues is not constructive and will not be tolerated on a constant basis.
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Post by John_Allen » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:18 pm

I suspect most know why I left the club and "moderator's job". I won't say any more!

Other than: one farm I worked at had a 990imp that had an oily rag as a filler "cap". There was a very good reason though: if the cap was fitted and the engine started, the cap would get blasted across the yard!

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Post by manxmac » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:40 pm

I would think that someone will be producing a decent copy of a vintage 6 volt battery cover for the classic car market. Many classics, even my 1958 MG A type had twin 6 volt batteries with Bakelite covers with the battery manufacturers name stamped into the plastic. Mine were stamped with the Oldham battery co, Lucas, Dagenham and many others. Twin 6 volt batteries always seemed to build up deposits on the terminals and never produce the equivalent current of a 12 volt.

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Post by JamesF » Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:43 pm

I had two 6 volt batteries on my 990 and they were useless. They were also very expensive

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Post by barryt » Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:13 pm

Thanks guys that's given me a good idea of what to look for.

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Post by dexta » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:01 pm

I don't know if this will be of any help, but I will say it in case it is.
Once I finished my rebuild of my Diesel Cropmaster, the one thing I thought was missing was battery boxes, although I was reverting to one single 12v battery instead of the 2 x 6v as original, I still had both battery trays fitted, on asking on this forum if anyone knew of anyone who made them, the general view was no one did. So I made 2 of my own, it was relatively simple and used only offcuts of 12 and 6mm ply, now they aren't dovetailed or branded with CAV, but copper pinned together, so the look will not suit the purist however on the tractor I have with the mods it has, it wasn't so much of a concern the lack of dovetailing. Time wise, it took around 2 hours to cut, fettle, sand and pin the boxes, then a few days to lay the varnish on, the result I believe is presentable, I will attach a pic to this post, the next step in the process now is to make the battery box/tray tops, which from what remnants came with the tractor were folded tin around a wooden cover.
I do not have any special tooling, the boxes were done with a standard DIY saw with edges being sandpapered off/rounded, then varnished in exterior varnish so I would say its a job for the keen home person. The battery tops so far have been 12mm ply with the edges rounded off to allow a nice "round" fold to the corners when the metal is folded over and I have used thin sheet, I believe less than 1mm thick, with the corners pop riveted. Again there was no special tools here, same saw as used for sides, coarser sandpaper for the edges and then these off cuts of thin sheet cut with a pair of tin snips and folded round by persuading the tin to bend with a wooden block, again I think a job doable by most people at home. Timescale around 2 hours for the work and extra time for paint.
See what you think, but please be aware the tractor isn't ever going to be a show winner, more of a exhibit line participant and still used at home for jobs.
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Dex

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case-ih1594
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Post by case-ih1594 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:10 pm

Good job.

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Post by dexta » Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:34 pm

wow, thank you very much case-ih1594, that's made my evening :)
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Dex

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Post by barryt » Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:44 pm

Yes very neat.

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Post by dexta » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:26 pm

Barry, thank you
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