Battery Tray/Box

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Battery Tray/Box

Post by barryt » Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:43 pm

My 1948 Cropmaster battery holder has one end cut off to enable the fitting of a 12 volt battery. I need to sort this out but unsure of how it should be as standard for this model. I've seen some batteries housed in a complete wooden box , others with a wooden cover only, or the metal banded holder such as I have at the moment, were these wooden covers/boxes ever a standard item on the Cropmaster VAK1c

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Post by Guest » Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:08 pm

As far as I am aware they all had the 'basket' type battery holder for the single 6V battery, it was only the tracklayer tractors that had the battery housed in a wooden box.

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Post by broadsword » Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:52 pm

Barry,

not sure but the Petrol/TVO`s had a low slung box set low down that had the battery sat in the carrier itself (6v), the diesels had a higher set battery mounting box where the battery sat on top of the carrier with a metal lid on top but a wooden (dovetailed) wooded box surrounding the battery (on both sides of the tractor - ie 2x6V for extra cranking power) - they had a CAV transfer on the side as they had the CAV diesel pump fitted so it was a bit of a marketing ploy no doubt.
The wooden boxes look great but try finding someone that can do dovetailing in wood nowadays!! - I`ve yet to find someone!! - for originality the TVO`s I think did not have them but they do look good with a wooden box

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Post by db2d » Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:26 pm

The Petrol/TVO Cropmaster battery, six and twelve volt sat in the carrier and was secured with a bakelite cover.
The very early diesels had two six volt wooden clad CAV batteries on the drivers side and the later ones had one battery on each side secured with metal covers. The wooden cladding was part of the battery.

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Post by barryt » Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:34 pm

Thanks guys it seems from your replies that mine has it's original basket type holder but somewhat butchered to take a 12v battery so I will get a new one made to match the existing. Andy I'm a Joiner by trade so the dovetailing would not be a problem but I will not be going down that avenue as it would not be original.

Are the Bakelite covers available anywhere ??

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Post by broadsword » Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:51 pm

Well know I know where to get my dovetailed battery boxes from in the future!!.

Do not think (unless someone knows otherwise) that the bakerlike ones (or repro`s) are available - one for a VAK1 appeared on e-bay a while ago and made crazy money but I`ve never seen one Barry - suspect most went brittle and broke up.

This is what they should look like - a picture from Stuart Gibbards book and also the wooded set up on the Diesel.

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Post by db2d » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:12 pm

They occasionally appear on eBay

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Post by db2d » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:19 pm

The battery cover from old20tractor parts is nothing like the one for the Cropmaster.

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Post by Guest » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:41 pm

Standard Lucas eqipment, exactly the same. Exide branded ones were also fitted, they came with either.

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Post by db2d » Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:01 pm

They are not the same as the original ones on the Cropmaster.

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Post by case-ih1594 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:05 pm

http://www.carrotcycles.co.uk/batteries ... -case.html

Is this similar ?

Although it may be for a motorcycle - but you get the point.

or:

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Jaguar-XK120-Luc ... EWnu3SIvTw

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Post by Guest » Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:35 pm

The Carrot Cycles unit is a plastic case that resembles an original battery, it's just a case that you put a modern battery in to give it an authentic period look. The one for the Jaguar type battery looks more like it but probably too small.

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Post by db2d » Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:46 pm

The one for the Jaguar looks the part providing the dimensions and the logo are ok.

The ones from old20parts are fourteen inches long for the large batteries that sat on trays either side of the Ferguson gearbox and are totally unsuitable for a VAK1c.

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Post by Guest » Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:14 am

If the battery used is smaller than 14"1/2 x 8"1/4 then it will not be suitable but if the OP has to reconstruct the battery carrier perhaps he could make it to fit the type of 6V battery that the later models employed, one of these covers would then definitely fit.

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