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Post by John » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:32 pm

Please could anyone tell me when safety frames were fitted to tractors as standard and when it became law to have them fitted

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Post by SteveCollett » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:44 pm

late 60's probably about 68

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Post by case-ih1594 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:16 pm

Anti-roll bars had to be fitted since September 1970, DB's built after this date probably had the (square looking) Sta-Dri / Victor cab fitted. Some people seem to remove such cabs and fit shell type mudguards even though the UK specification tractors would all have had the cab fitted from new, and you are removing the anti-roll benefits.


From 1st September 1977 further cab regulations came in force to keep noise levels below 90 Decibels and there was a mad scramble to fit a 'roll bar' because otherwise a Q-cab would have to be retro-fitted !


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Post by Guest » Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:30 pm

Beware tractors being sold either by a dealer, private individual, eBay or farm auction which have had the cab removed, it is illegal. There has been an on-going discussion within the powers tat be as to the condition of tractor cabs of older tractors, there are a lot of cabbed tractors that are well into their 40's now and the condition of some of the cabs would now make them useless because of rust and corrosion and render them 'unfit for purpose', there was talk a while ago that there could be a form of official inspection of cabs needed if a tractor was up for sale. There are several D.B tractors on eBay at the moment minus their cab, I wonder if the sellers realise that they are breaking the Law?

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Post by John_Allen » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:15 pm

The introduction date was put back a year to allow manufacturers to time to get approval for their frames/cabs and I think they eventually came in early in 1971 - though DB were already fitting them (one of the first, if not the first, of the UK manufacturers to do so). The "Sta-Dri" cab was fitted - with either "Sta-Dri" or "David Brown" above the windscreen, the same cab was sold as an after market item and had "Victor" above the windscreen (as was on my 780 cab when I bought the tractor). I took the cladding off my 780 as it was almost falling off, though I have left the safety frame in place.

The Q-cab was supposed to start in 1976, but it was also postponed - for the same reasons I think!

As Case-IH says, some remove the cabs when restoring their machines, but the likes of the 885, 995/6 and 12XX always had safety cabs (or frames), so a show tractor should have them too. It's fair enough if you need a low tractor in the yard (though you shouldn't use it out of the yard!). A former boss has a MF 240 with the Q-cab removed so he could scrape his cubicle shed out when he was still farming, but it should be refitted now he is retired (and has had to give up his license) as his wife and son use the tractor for "odd jobs".


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Post by Guest » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:30 pm

There was a 1394 on eBay last year that had the cab cut off at the bottom of the windscreen line, top of mudguards, he'd cut it off with the gas torch 'for use in my low cattle sheds' he added at the end of his description that he 'would weld the cab back on if anyone wanted it'. Muppet!

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Post by broadsword » Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:38 pm

I`ve had many a sleepless night worrying about being thrown in prison for using my 73 990 without a cab and frame :roll:



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Post by case-ih1594 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:53 pm

They'd let you out after 6 months - on Paroll (bar) :oops:


Post by Guest » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:34 pm

[quote="broadsword"]I`ve had many a sleepless night worrying about being thrown in prison for using my 73 990 without a cab and frame :roll:

If the tractor was fitted with either a safety frame or a full cab from manufacture Andy they wouldn't put you behind bars, they'd stick you with a hefty fine and take the tractor and destroy it!

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