Getting started in Qld

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stew83
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Getting started in Qld

Post by stew83 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:21 pm

Hi all I'm fairly new to forum and have just got a 1949 cropmaster. It's a bit sad state at moment and spent the last 30 years sitting out in the open. Unfortunately the engine is seized at the moment and that's where iv started. I removed the sump along with 20 liters of muck(oil) andwater. On closer look the crank and all seemto look ok no rust on anything so hopefully just pistons stuck. Iv cleaned out sump and filled bores and sump with diesel and let it sit for a while now. Is there anything else you guys think I could try or should do? Also the last owner removed the dynamo which prob let most of water in sump in first place, he is trying to track it down at moment but I'm not sure which parts are in the front housing for governor? Or what is missing? Look forward to your replies.
Ps I tried to upload photo but couldn't I can pm them if someone else can upload them. Cheers.

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RE: Getting started in Qld

Post by ollek » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:49 pm

Removing the dynamo will not open anything up, the alternator is belt driven and completely external. If the tractor is a diesel, it is possible that the injection pump has been removed. This will make the whole gear set in front of the engine open to the air. If the injection pump is removed, the tractor will not operate before the old pump or a replacement is found.

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RE: Getting started in Qld

Post by stew83 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:00 pm

Sorry I should of said it's an early petrol kerosene cropmaster with the gear driven dynamo.

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Post by bedwards1966 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:36 pm

Sit and wait then try getting it to turn back and forth. I've done this on good level ground by putting the machine in top gear and rocking it, or by sticking a bar on the crankshaft pulley nut (no idea if this can be done on these).
Failing that I've removed the head and then used a block of wood and a hammer to tap the pistons down.

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Post by stew83 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 8:04 pm

I guess it's just a waiting game for now then. Iv got plenty of time. I was gonna try an leave head on if I can get away with it but just need to see how it goes. Does anyone have a diagram of inside the front timing cover that shows gears and governor set up .

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Post by db2d » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:16 pm

If you PM me your email address I will send the infomation

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Post by db2d » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:27 pm

If you PM me your email address I will send the information

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RE: Getting started in Qld

Post by stew83 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:37 am

I gave it a bit of a rock back an forth in top gear when I came home fr work today and to my surprise it moved. After a bit I got the starting handle on and now iv got it turning over freely .

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Post by prblake » Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:41 pm

stew
Well done getting the motor turning over.
Here are some photos of the generator from my tractor. Ignore the generator end as I have grafted on a 12 volt Lucas generator back end in place of the 6 volt CAV unit but the gear drive and governor 'wings' are original. I have just converted mine to 12 volts because I found it was not a reliable starter with 6 volts.

Presumably the rest of your governor is still on the engine. I do have a parts diagram for this if you need a scan. I dont know anyone around Brisbane who would have a gear driven generator but i have got a few parts from a bloke in Victoria who may have one. Here is his website- http://curtisautomotive.com.au/
Paul
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Post by stew83 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:13 am

Thanks for the pictures paul. Inside the timin cover was still a short shaft with a bearing ring and two washers on it. I guess the hard bit now is tracking down a generator and the wings for the governor. The last owner sent it to someone in gympie to be checked over 30 years ago so were trying to track it down and hope all parts are still on it!
I would really like to get a look at your tractor sometime to view a complete one and sort of get a look at what else might be missing from mine? I think your cropmaster would be closest to where we live.
Thanks again.

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Post by prblake » Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:06 am

Stew

My tractor is on display at the Laidley Historical Village Tractor Museum about half way between Brisbane and Towoomba. I would be happy to meet you there when it suits so we can have a good look over it and run it up.
Paul
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Post by stew83 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:04 pm

Thanks for that Paul that would be a great help. I dig holes Monday to Friday so would prob have to be on a weekend but I can work around whenever suits you best.
Cheers

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